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Welcome to the Leading Real Change podcast with host Dr Jacqueline Kerr, an expert in workplace culture change. I interview dedicated and passionate Changemakers about their careers, how they lead change, and what leaders can do today to make a difference to build healthy, inclusive workplace cultures for all. I am excited to share these examples of real workplace change with you. You’ll learn about effective strategies that are working and how to overcome real barriers to change that challenge us everyday. I hope you’ll feel inspired and more confident to keep leading change in your workplace. Please share this podcast with other HR, DEI or ERG leaders who you know are working hard, but are struggling to have impact, and need more support to effectively create a thriving workplace culture for all today.
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Wednesday Dec 13, 2023
Wednesday Dec 13, 2023
In this week’s enlightening episode with Olivia Wagner, the author of "Right Leader, Right Time," we delved into the fascinating concept of FABS leadership: Fixer, Artist, Builder, and Strategist. Here are the key takeaways from this informative discussion:
- Fixer Leader: The Fixer thrives in challenging and chaotic situations. They don't shy away from troubled circumstances but instead embrace them, seeking to identify root causes and implement solutions swiftly. They excel at turning organizations around, making quick decisions, and constantly seeking the next challenge.
- Artist Leader: The Artist Leader is driven by the act of creation and reinvention. They're the creative minds who envision new products, services, or innovative approaches. Organizations seeking innovation and a competitive edge should have Artist Leaders in their ranks.
- Builder Leader: As organizations grow, they often hit a ceiling. The Builder Leader specializes in creating the necessary structure, systems, and processes to facilitate further growth. They empower their teams to build on the solid foundation they establish.
- Strategist Leader: Strategists operate at scale and complexity. They put structures in place, mentor others, and focus on metrics to ensure that everyone understands their role in achieving the organization's goals. Strategists continuously look for ways to stay ahead of the curve.
Olivia also emphasizes the importance of listening and building trust, especially in troubled organizations. Good Fixers, for instance, ask meaningful questions and build trusting relationships. She also promotes a culture of mentorship and development, ensuring that leaders understand their role and contributions.
Additionally, Olivia shares a great leadership tip: avoid making big decisions on Fridays when team members may be preoccupied with weekend plans. This helps maintain focus and effectiveness during high-stress situations.
The importance of open communication and questioning is highlighted, with small group settings and discussions being effective tools. This approach ensures that everyone is aligned and motivated to move forward.
Olivia and her book advocate for building complementary teams where each member's strengths enhance the team's overall effectiveness. It's about focusing on what you do best and seeking help where you need it.
In a world filled with endless tasks and responsibilities, Olivia's wisdom encourages us to invest in our strengths, serve in our highest and best use, and create environments where complementary teams thrive.
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